The following article is a summary of what transpired during a question and answer session following the recent Queer Eucharist that Hiltz presided at.
The whole thing is worth a read because it illustrates well the morally chaotic universe the Anglican Church of Canada inhabits. A universe where a Primate’s personal view of same-sex marriage is at odds with the religion he is supposed to represent, where telling someone homosexual activity is wrong amounts to abuse, where the main purpose of the church appears to be not only to affirm whatever its members do no matter what but to provide them a safe space in which to do it.
From the attendees at the session, it is once again apparent that ACoC clergy promote gay marriage so strenuously because so many of them are, themselves, married to a person of the same sex.
I do see a bright future ahead for the Anglican Church of Canada, though: not so much as a church but as a gay dating agency for unattached clergy.
“All of us belong to God,” said Canon Douglas Graydon to Archbishop Fred Hiltz, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, at a gathering held to discuss same-sex marriage in the Canadian church. “The question is whether we belong to the church.”
It was a question many LGBTQ Anglicans brought forward in a question and answer session that took place after a talk Hiltz gave following the “queer Eucharist” service hosted monthly at the Anglican Church of St. John’s West Toronto.
Passions ran high in the hour-long conversation, moderated by Graydon, an associate priest at St. John’s who is in a same-sex marriage. The event saw about 150 people—including several LGBTQ clergy from the diocese of Toronto—come forward to share stories of pain and discrimination, and to call on the church to honour their struggle and their equality.
“What I want from our bishops, and from our primate, is the kind of language that restores hope, that will allow a 17-year-old thinking that suicide is maybe better, to say, ‘No—no, there is hope,’” said the Rev. Alison Kemper (deacon), a professor at Ryerson University. “We are who we are, and if the Anglican church chooses to deny us, we will get married, and we will have careers and we will have churches. What you need to do is claim your authenticity as our leader.”
Her thoughts were seconded by her wife, the Rev. Joyce Barnett, incumbent at St. Matthias, Bellwoods, who stressed the importance of publicly calling out homophobia and exclusion.
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The most pointed question, however, came at the end of the evening, when a young woman named Jessica Davis-Sydor asked Hiltz about his personal views on the issue.
“I never actually heard you come out and say that you supported, that you support what is going on, that you are fighting to try and get same-sex marriage in the church,” she said. “Do you fully support it, deep down, what is happening?”
Hiltz responded by saying that while he personally supports same-sex marriage in the Anglican church, his position as president of General Synod places limitations on what he can or cannot say as a representative of the Canadian church.
Tragically it was adulterous clergy and lay people who set this whole evil in motion decades ago. The pot calling the kettle white. Now all the kettles call in unison.
In 1982, I heard a sermon on the Final Judgment. The preacher said: “The outstanding purpose of the judgment will be to display the sovereignty of God and the glory of God in the revelation of the final destiny of each person. God’s grace will be magnified in the salvation of His people, and His justice will be magnified in the condemnation of His enemies.” All things that have been done during this present life will be judged (II Corinthians 5:10). True believers need have no fear of the Day of Judgment.
What further proof do we need to see through the apostasy of Fred Hiltz and other so-called clergy within the ACoC. Clearly the ACoC is no longer Christian regardless of how many times they blaspheme our Lord by holding – might I say – unholy Eucharists. They worship their own ideas and are trying to force their thinking on members in the church simply to satisfy their own sinful actions. I am very glad to be out of the ACoC and to be part of an ANIC church. Until apostates such as Fred Hiltz and his followers are removed from office there is no hope for the ACoC. I sincerely pray for their conversion and repentance but currently they are too full of themselves to submit to the authority of Scripture.
Article XXVI: Of the unworthiness of the ministers, which hinders not the effect of the sacraments.
The question is not “do we belong to the Church”:It is do we belong to Christ?
This is the question both asked by and answered to the Church of Corinth,
situated in “the most corrupt city of ancient Greece” and whose various corruptions
the Apostle Paul names in + I Corinthians ch. 6:9,10, wherein “he lays down for all time
the eternal principles which underlie the sacred duty of chastity – that their bodies, their members, are not their own, BUT CHRIST’s – that union with Christ is DESTROYED
by union with uncleanness; that sensuality is a sin against a man’s own body; that a Christian’s body is not his own, but a temple of the Indwelling Spirit. that he is not his own but bought with a price + ‘Therefore Glorify GOD in your body’ (v.20).”
(The Life and Work of St. Paul. F.W. Farrar, p. 389.)
He impresses his teaching with the most solemn injunction, “Be not deceived” (v.9b);
+ II Thess. 2:3 “let no man deceive you by any means”: deception/planao
the favoured operation of “the deceivableness of unrighteousness” (v.19);
for THIS is the Crucial difference between true and false teachers; the former
at one in mind with their LORD as Sola Revealed in His Holy WORD;
the latter deceived deceivers leading their flocks astray into Prophesied latter days fornication and idolatry + II Thessalonians 2;
and actively persecuting all those who oppose them. Such is “spiritual abuse”!
Yes, the basic principle is Christ’s ownership of my body. He did not hang on His Cross so that any one of us might live as we please.
PLEASE remember the special meeting of our Canadian HoB 23-26th Feb.