The two thirds majority needed to allow same-sex marriage was met by the laity and clergy but defeated by the bishops.
Primate Fred Hiltz appeared to be stunned by the vote.
Before the meeting was adjourned, there was talk of making another motion to somehow bypass the decision of this defeated motion, so this may not be over.
Truly the Lord is gracious unto Israel!
No πορνειά is good πορνεία.
Now the real educational task can go forward.
Well that is interesting indeed. Will there be listening and learning now? Or will it be a repeat of previous, where they go ahead anyway because synod didn’t say we couldn’t. …?
Yes indeed, the so called liberals who are actually apostates will indeed go ahead anyway as they face no consequences. It is well past the time for genuine Christians within the ACoC to demand the removal of ALL clergy including apostate so-called bishops. Until that is done the apostates will continue in their deceptive ways without any consequence.
They’ll go ahead anyway but it will totally split the Church in two. The centre will not hold.
“There’s infinite survival in
The high baptismal glow
Slip inside this house as you pass by” (Slip Inside This House, 13th Floor Elevators, Easter Everywhere.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSA0Tckwbk
Be of good faith—the issue, really, though, isn’t the marriage canon, it’s free speech. Christ died so we could speak freely, to preach the gospel, so that the holy spirit be not restrained within us, that we let it shine out of our mouths.
The center is beyond time and space. The center of our house can never die. The Church has gone through many periods of far more violence than this—look at the proponents of the marriage canon, just a bunch of weepy children. And I am not discounting people’s feelings, but feeling is not reason and doctrine. We derive doctrine from the Word of God, expressed in the canonical books of the bible. The larger issue is a theology of the body, that says our bodily feelings should drive how we interpret scripture. Obviously, we don’t want to be self-flagellating individuals who deny the reality of pleasure, but nor do we want to be Libertines who believe pleasure is the only sovereign law. There is, to many things, like pleasure, a mean of enjoyment.
I’m astonished that 14 bishops had the backbone to vote against it.
Be interesting to see who will replace Fred – anything can happen😀
It is interesting that the percentage in favour of the change was higher among the laity than the clergy. That strikes me as rather odd. I have grown accustomed to thinking of the clergy as being much more liberal and leftist than the laity. Perhaps that has changed – or, more likely, the lay delegates were selected for their liberalism. At any rate, kudos to the Apostles’ successors – or at least the minority among them that was large enough to defeat the motion – for actually acting like it for once.
I’m actually in shock that the vote went this way. I thought it was a “done deal”. Apparently the pro-side thought so as well. But as we have seen, those who want this to be a de facto “yes” will carry on in that vein. The result, for orthodox folks in the ACoC, is almost identical. Your position is backed up on paper, but not in what is being taught by the only priests who will gain the approval of liberal diocesan bishops. And as was made clear, they will find another way to advance this, if not now, then next year.
I think orthodox parishes should be planning for an exit strategy against the inevitable. But then, what do I know, I thought this would go through… wow.